Cancer cure could be 2 years away.

[Matt]

This would be absolutely amazing if it really happened. But Emerald is probably right. The big drug companies will probably try to prevent the cure because they make too much money from the treatments.

[Vincent Van Ghoul]

Again, if one person can do it, so can another. Modern medicine isn't magic, It's based on solid foundations that ensure no one person has so much power, he can deny others life saving medicines on a whim.

Do you honestly think, that if word got out that 1 single company, or 1 single person held the cure for a terminal illness, that people and governments would just sit idly by and let the cure be unobtainable forever?

[Matt]

Jun 2, 2016 21:18:14 GMT -6 Vincent Van Ghoul said:

Again, if one person can do it, so can another. Modern medicine isn't magic, It's based on solid foundations that ensure no one person has so much power, he can deny others life saving medicines on a whim.

Do you honestly think, that if word got out that 1 single company, or 1 single person held the cure for a terminal illness, that people and governments would just sit idly by and let the cure be unobtainable forever?

Of course not. I'm sure they are actively looking for a cure. The question is how accessible will that cure be when it is found. Will everyone who has that disease be able to be obtain the cure free or at low cost?

[Vincent Van Ghoul]

In the first few months? No, drugs have to, by law, be thoroughly tested for a long time before entering the public market. Once that's done, and we know the cure won't lead to other horrible side effects, depending on your country, it would be made available to as many people as possible.
If a government came out and said "We have the cure for this horrible thing you and your family is dying from, but you can't have it" there wouldn't be a government the next day. It simply is, in a modern, sensible governments best interest to, you know, not incite riots and chaos among the general population.

Another factor is the state of the cure. If it could be reduced to a simple pill form, i don't imagine it'll be priced so as to bankrupt anyone who dares to try and use it.
Contrary to the "big pharma" conspiracy theories, there isn't a whole lot of benefits for a government to keep their citizens perpetually sick and dying.

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^^^ good post

[Matt]

Jun 2, 2016 21:30:12 GMT -6 Vincent Van Ghoul said:

In the first few months? No, drugs have to, by law, be thoroughly tested for a long time before entering the public market. Once that's done, and we know the cure won't lead to other horrible side effects, depending on your country, it would be made available to as many people as possible.
If a government came out and said "We have the cure for this horrible thing you and your family is dying from, but you can't have it" there wouldn't be a government the next day. It simply is, in a modern, sensible governments best interest to, you know, not incite riots and chaos among the general population.

Another factor is the state of the cure. If it could be reduced to a simple pill form, i don't imagine it'll be priced so as to bankrupt anyone who dares to try and use it.
Contrary to the "big pharma" conspiracy theories, there isn't a whole lot of benefits for a government to keep their citizens perpetually sick and dying.

True, I'm just surprised that they haven't found a cure yet with all their research and funding that they've had for decades.

[Matt]

Jun 2, 2016 18:48:19 GMT -6 Vincent Van Ghoul said:

Mar 23, 2016 18:59:26 GMT -6 Emerald said:

There will never be a cure for cancer released - too much money to be made by big Pharma companies dishing out pills.

I'd just like to offset this comment with something a bit more positive.

Even if a cure for cancer, or AIDS, or anything else really, was developed, It would take a pretty unique set of circumstances before any private entity could claim dominion over it, making it impossible to reproduce elsewhere.

For starters, it's not guaranteed that such a cure would be developed by a private corporation, or person, who could set the pricing for it. If it was developed in a more socialist country, like Canada or the Nordic countries, the cure would probably be free anyway to anyone who needed it, or at least affordable.
There's also the more likely possibility that such cures would be developed by international organizations, specifically devoted to a specific cause, like fighting cancer. They wouldn't hide the victory if they found a cure.

But even if it was made by someone who wanted to charge 1000 Dollars per pill, for example, If it was developed one place, It can be replicated in another.
If one person makes it, someone else can too, and cheaper. Martin Shkreli, the closest mankind as come to an actual Bond Villain, raised the price of Daraprim tablets from 13.5 Dollars per tablet, to 750 per tablet. Most hated man in America, and an absolute piece of shit all around. I really hopes he gets Lou Gehrigs disease.
But In India, the same drug would have cost you about 10 cents a tablet.

So, the future isn't that bleak, there's hope yet.

It's sad that someone would increase the price of a lifesaving drug like that. I don't know all the details but I think he should forced to give the drug for free because it's such a medical breakthrough.

[Vincent Van Ghoul]

He has since stepped down as CEO of the company, and is under criminal investigation, so there's that. The company still hasn't made plans to reduce the price though.

Free might be a bit of a stretch, there are still people who work to produce, research and distribute the drug and they need paychecks too. But there's no reason to charge 750 dollars per tablet, when the rest of the pays less than a dollar for them.

[Matt]

Jun 3, 2016 17:23:48 GMT -6 Vincent Van Ghoul said:

He has since stepped down as CEO of the company, and is under criminal investigation, so there's that. The company still hasn't made plans to reduce the price though.

Free might be a bit of a stretch, there are still people who work to produce, research and distribute the drug and they need paychecks too. But there's no reason to charge 750 dollars per tablet, when the rest of the pays less than a dollar for them.

True. I heard he was indicted with 8 counts of Fraud actually.

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I don't think they want to cure it. If they do, the funding will dry up and I am not sure if they will make as much on the treatment. I think they only see that "all mighty money", and could care less about people's lives.

I just read today that 1/4 of the people who now have cancer of any kind can't afford treatment anymore.